Wednesday, April 25, 2012

To BYU or Not To BYU?


If you yawned when you received your BYU acceptance letter, this page is for you.
Especially if you're struggling to decide whether to attend BYU or a top-ranked university.  

Many high-achieving students hesitate to come to BYU because they fear they will not feel challenged at a school where the average ACT score is a 29.  Despite that average score, there are actually plenty of super-intelligent students at BYU, and the classes (by and large) are still challenging for this group of kids. If you isolated the top fourth of the students at BYU, you would likely find that their test score distribution resembles that of an Ivy League School (ACT 25th-75th percentile = 31-34).  BYU is actually the destination for several of the brightest high school students in the nation.

Several students have turned down Yale, MIT, Princeton, Harvard, Dartmouth, Columbia, and other top colleges to enroll at BYU. Some of them receive some sort of recognition after choosing BYU, but most do not.  They are among the 75% of students that routinely enroll at BYU after being admitted.

Telling friends, teachers, and relatives "I'll be attending BYU" can be a very difficult thing for highly-accomplished students to do. Heck, choosing some obscure religious university in Utah over UC Berkeley, Stanford or Yale (that's how people may view your decision) hardly reflects what you have accomplished.  If you've distinguished yourself as one of the world's top high school students, that distinction would be most apparent if you branded yourself with the name of one of the world's top-ranked universities.  If you were to say, "I am going to Harvard," or "I am a Harvard student," people instantly realize that you are a top-notch, incredibly gifted individual.  By associating yourself with a prestigious institution, you build up your own reputation.

But studies show that students who turn down top-ranked schools to attend lesser-known universities end up being just as successful in life as their counterparts at prestigious universities.  Basically, your ability to succeed depends most on what you do in college, and not where you go to college.  And you can accomplish a lot through BYU: Each year, several BYU students get accepted to top graduate programs at the likes of Harvard, Yale, UPenn, Columbia, Stanford and Dartmouth, to name a few.  BYU students have won Rhodes Scholarships and several other prestigious scholarships.  Whatever you might accomplish elsewhere, you can accomplish if you apply yourself at BYU.  And it might even be easier (see below.)

Here are some of the reasons why highly-accomplished students decide to attend BYU:

Cost.
Even though top-ranked schools give substantial financial aid, their students still end up paying tens of thousands of dollars each year.  Because roughly 3/4 of the cost of a BYU education is subsidized by the LDS church, your education will end up costing much less.  Even before you account for your BYU scholarship, you're getting a good deal.

Research Opportunities.
It is very common for BYU students to participate in undergraduate research with their instructors.  Several students co-publish papers with their professors.  BYU students can get involved in the research scene as early as freshman year if they are assertive.

Easier to distinguish yourself academically at BYU.
Think about this: At Harvard, 75% of the student body scored in the 99th percentile on their SAT and/or ACT tests.  Other prestigious colleges boast similar statistics.  Even though you may be a super genius, you would be competing with dozens of other super geniuses in your classes at a top-ranked university, and it's unlikely you would outperform them all.  This is especially true when you consider the pervasive cheating that occurs at most of the nation's college campuses. (Guess which university in Utah frequently gets top marks for its low incidence of cheating?) When it comes time to apply for graduate school, graduate scholarships, or jobs, odds are that there will be another student from your prestigious university - with better credentials than you - who may get the admissions offer, scholarship, or job that you're trying to win.

At BYU (or any other moderately competitive university), highly-talented students can more easily set themselves apart from their peers when they rank at the top of their classes and take advantage of their school's opportunities for select students.



If you type "why are" into google, the first auto-suggestion is "Why are Mormons so hot?" Yep...  There's a reason for that.  Students who are in the market for a relationship (or one of those eternal companion things), and often find BYU's student body to be pretty appealing.

4 comments:

  1. Actually, Google search recommendations are tailored to you and what you typically search for. Getting"why are Mormons so hot" is because you typically search for stuff like that.

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  2. If you use a brand new computer (without any search history) it's still one of the top results. This is because Google's algorithm does not rely solely on your search history, but also on the inputs of millions of other users. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/22/google-suggest-religion_n_5609410.html

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  3. This is ridiculous. No, no, no, no. Do NOT choose BYU over an Ivy League / Elite university. I personally transferred from BYU to an Ivy league, and let me tell you, it is very rare for people out here to care about (or even know) BYU. Please, please, please, do NOT listen to people who say they are on par-- they are absolutely NOT. There is a reason BYU is 60 rankings behind elite schools. If you were a non-Mormon employer, and you saw "BYU- 4.0" vs "Harvard- 4.0", and you could only choose one, who would you choose to interview? Of course the Harvard student. BYU/Mormon connections does not make up for a lagging ranking. If someone does know BYU, they will either think "hardworking" or "homophobic." Is that a gamble you wish to take?

    I can personally attest to the rigor difference between my current university and BYU-- they are pretty far apart. At BYU, I was sporting a 3.8-4.0. Here, I'm down to a 3.6 and working WAY harder. Class rigor aside, take a look at your peers (your education is shaped by them too). At BYU, people will literally make comments about how Biology relates to "The Circle of Life" in class (are you kidding me?), whereas at an Elite university, students will be quoting great minds such as Foucault, Jane Austin (doubt you'll read much feminist work at BYU), and the like.

    Bottom line: don't listen to this nonsense. If you get an elite offer, take it and don't look back.

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    1. Also, I should note, at BYU I was consistently in the top 10% of my classes-- here, I am easily competing to be above average. The smarter your classmates are, the more you will be pushed to succeed. The bar will be lower for you at BYU, and if you were good enough to make it into an elite university, you absolutely will not achieve your full potential at BYU.

      IF your main goal is to get married during college and have the largest selection pool... then go to BYU. But RE tuition: most elite institutions offer amazing tuition assistance, so money is definitely not a good reason to do BYU over an elite school.

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